that city. and everybody is moving. everybody is leaving. i call that the obama dividend because he's creating jobs in the moving industry, as people flee and it's also part of michelle's obesity fight plan because they're running from creditors. >> that was creative. >> i thought he said the auto industry. >> the auto industry left detroit and went south. >> it's all going to be fine. >> it is going to be fine. >> no problem. >> and new york city and washington, d.c. in that list, i can't imagine -- >> dc is not in the top ten. , you got flint, michigan, chicago, though, is number 4. >> chicago, that's what i was thinking. >> chicago has a lot of defenders. a lot of people who live there absolutely love it. but for others, it's a place of high crime and also kimberly, one of the things they talked about in this survey is commuting time. >> yeah! >> that was repeated over and over again. how long it takes to you get to and from work. >> i think forbes is on to something because that is part of your enjoyment, how long does it take to you get to work? what's the weather like and the